Diskussion:Geier (Schiff, 1895)

S/S Florida oder Fluida

Gröner wie auch Hildebrand haben m.E. nicht recht, ich traue der angegebene US Navy-Quelle mehr.!--Erb34 21:06, 10. Mai 2010 (CEST) rückgeändert bleibe ich dabei: die US-Navy wird besser wissen, wer ihr Schiff "versenkt" hat, zumal ich keinen Dampfer Fluida gefunden habe.

Fate:Sunk June 21, 1918 after being rammed in foggy conditions by SS Florida. Location: North Atlantic, 32 miles south of Cape Lookout, North Carolina (34.11.218N - 76.36.127W) 1 crewman killed, 214 survivors picked up by SS Florida and SS Saramacca [1]

Assigned to the American Patrol Detachment, Schurz departed Charleston toward the end of April and, for the next two months, conducted patrols and performed escort duty and towing missions along the east coast and in the Caribbean. On 19 June, she departed New York for Key West. At 0444 on the 21st, southwest of Cape Lookout lightship, she was rammed by the merchant ship, Florida. Florida hit Schurz on the starboard side, crumpling that wing of the bridge, penetrating the well and berth deck about 12 feet, and cutting through bunker no. 3 to the forward fire room. One of Schurz's crew was killed instantly; twelve others were injured. Schurz was abandoned. Three hours later, she sank [2]

Sunk 21 June 1918 after being struck by the SS Florida off Cape Lookout Lightship, 130 miles east of Wilmington, NC; Struck from the Navy list 26 August 1918 [3]

On June 19, 1918, the USS Schurz left New York bound for Key West with 215 men onboard. In the early morning hours of June 21, 1918, the USS Schurz was in a dense fog 10 miles past Cape Lookout. A tanker, the Florida came out of the darkness directly toward the USS Schurz. They were both running without lights to evade enemy submarines. As they were 900 yards apart, the Florida turned on her running lights and blew four short blasts on her horn. The warning came too late as the Florida's bow cut into the starboard side of the USS Schurz. One crewman was killed on the USS Schurz in the initial impact. The USS Schurz sent out an SOS that was heard by the Saramacca, an American steamship returning from the West Indies. The Saramacca picked up the sailors in the water and the ones picked up the Florida. One of the sails was left up and caused the ship to drift for 12 miles. As the last survivor was picked up, the USS Schurz was still afloat and the Captain and executive officer discussed the possibility of moving the ship inshore to the beach at Cape Lookout. Before a small crew could reboard, the USS Schurz listed to port and slid beneath the water. The Florida continued on to port under her own power. [4] --Erb34 21:06, 10. Mai 2010 (CEST)

Karlsruhe und Emden

Mich überrascht das die geschätzten Sichter und Verbesserer hier jahrelang den Einsatz der SMS Karlsruhe (1912) in Ostafrika und den Kaperkrieg der SMS Emden (1908) schon im Juni 1914 zugelassen haben; Groener ? --Erb34 02:45, 11. Mai 2010 (CEST)